It’s 50 years ago this week that Neil Armstrong first stepped out of Apollo 11 and onto the moon’s surface, followed by Buzz Aldrin (and don’t you feel sorry for Michael Collins, who had to stay in the capsule for the duration). Cooped up, uncomfortable – and of course we’re still travelling in space, to the International Space Station and back.

So who looks after the comfort of the modern astronauts, how do they get the data and how do they process it? Near Futurist Guy Clapperton had a chat with David Meza, knowledge architect at NASA, about how the process of gradual learning and improvement works.

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